FSB Buttons - Song Be

Nui Ba Ra overlooking FSB Buttons

FSB Buttons (earlier LZ Buttons) was once one of the largest bases in the area of north eastern III Corps. Over the years, it was home to Army units together with all kinds of support and flying units. Being located so close to the Cambodian border meant that Buttons blocked the way for PAVN troops infiltrating across the border.

The camp was also used as a staging ground during the Cambodian Incursion, thanks to it being so close to Cambodia, choppers would lift off and be able to support the troops in Cambodia within minutes. Traffic went both west towards the Fishhook region as well as north towards Snoul. Most of these larger camps would also host a Special Forces camp and Buttons was not an exception.

FSB Buttons was the most northern of the large bases in north east III Corps. Other ones were places such as Quan LoiPhuoc Vinh and Lai Khe as well as the other bases along QL13 – “Thunder Road”. In all directions though were plenty of smaller Landing Zones and more or less temporary bases that were used for different purposes such as operational support or Special Forces Camps such as Loc Ninh. Further south was War Zone D.

Looking west along runway or taxi at FSB Buttons.

All the way through the area runs the Song Be river. Its bridges were highly contested and especially the Song Be Bridge south of Phuoc Vinh would have a permanent guard unit. Viet Cong and NVA units would also use the river as an infiltration route making it a hot spot. This was a very active area during the war.

Close up of Nui Ba Ra at FSB Buttons

As the old base area is now being developed, there will soon not be much left to see that resembles the base area. However, the old runway, taxi ways and other base roads are the ones used as main roads in the area. With the mighty Nui Ba Ra overlooking the old base, anyone who were there during the war will recognize the place.

There was also a smaller runway in Song Be Town just a few kilometers north east that was used by FACs.

 

How to get there

Song Be is located about 100 kilometers north east of Saigon and is accessible via the main roads in the area. Plan for a full day trip to go there and back, make sure to include stops at other locations that are mentioned here in the III Corps section such as Loc Ninh, Lai Khe, Quan Loi and Phuoc Vinh. As mentioned, this area was populated with a large number of bases. Thanks to the vast rubber plantations and the fact few tourists go here, these bases are still well worth visiting as there is still relatively much to see.

JT

 

How to get there

Song Be is located about 100 kilometer north east of Saigon and is accessible via the main roads in the area. Plan for a full day to go there and come back.

Decimal coordinates: 11.821737, 106.963992

 

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62 thoughts on “FSB Buttons/Song Be”

  1. Hi, my name is Robert Carter, I was a crane operator 557th Engineers attached to the 31st. I was there during the attack of Nov 69. I continued and retired as a 1SG of B Co, 249th Engineer Bn stationed in Germany. I remember using the crane to help build the MACV bunker. Glad you made it back brother. Good luck to you and your family.

  2. THANKS FOR ALL THE POSTING I WAS THERE NOV.1969 TO MARCH 1970 I JUST HAVE I REMBER NOV 4 REAL WELL I DROVE THE RATION TRUK I WAS IN THE JUNGLE WITH B 2/5 BEFOR I GOT TRANSERFERD I WAS ON GARD THAT NIGHT I HAD A RADIO WHEN THE S–T HIT THE FAN !! I CALL TO COMAND AND REPORTED THAT BUNKER 20 JUST BLUE UP GET SOME FLARS UP THEY SAID ARE YOU SURE THEN ALL HELL STARTED TH ALL FIREING STARTING THEY BELIVED ME REAL QUICK THE NEXT DAY I REMBER SITTING ON BEARM UP IN THE DAY WATCH DETAIL PICKING UP DEAD GOOKS THE BODYS WERE STIF THEY LOADED THEM ON A LITTLE TRAILOR AND JEEP LIKE LODING A STICK OF WOOD THEY TOOK THEM TO LAND FEILD THE DOZER COVERD THEM UP WITH THE TRASH PLEASE DONT BE TO HARD ON MY ED. I JUST HAVE A 7TH.GRADE ED.I KNOW THIS THE WAY
    I SAW IT HHC 1ST CAV, CAME HOME NOT OLD ENUFE TO DRINK A BEER OUT OF ARMY EXTEND 35 DAYS TO ETS OUT THE TOLD ME I WAS NOT A MAN YET SP4 PARKER CALHOUN GA.

  3. I was wounded just before Christmas on Buttons 1969.It was a rocket attack.I was with HHC.I now live in Brisbane Australia.I married a Aussie girl.Been here for the past fifty years.

  4. I was based at Song Be as advisor to the Green Beret for cargo and personnel transport. We drive those large Fork lifts and jocky’d C130’s around the small airstrip. I left on Nov. 25th, 1967. I and 4 other USAF groups were the first group deployed to Song Be. We brought in those big guns along with the 101st airborne brigade and pre-fabricated another special forces camp which was the backdrop for John Wayne’s movie the Green Beret.
    I’m looking for the name of the Base Commander Green Beret of Song Be mid 1967. Any info would be appreciated. I remember walking the berm during monsoon season by the only 50 cal gun on site. Took fire that night. All ended well for the camp.

  5. I was at Buttons from around Oct.of 69to end of Jan.1970 Delta co.31st combat engineers .Our Lt.was kia during rocket and mortor and ground assualt in late Dec.,early Jan.

    1. I was at Song Be from November 69 to January 70 with 2nd Platoon B co. 31st CBT ENGR at the MACV compound we were completing the compound before the old MACV compound shut down .

  6. Great discussions. What 7th Cav battalions were stationed at LZ Buttons in April of 1969? Was LZ Buttons ever referred to as LZ Jo or (Joe)? Thanks in advance. Garry Owen. C. L.

  7. Dave, I arrived late November ’69 and ETS Feb ’71 (extended for early out). Was with HHS 1/77th Arty ,FDC our hootches and tents were next to 2nd Bde headquarters. I’m sure you remember the incoming, 122mm rockets and the monsoons?

    1. I was assigned to HHC 15th S&S Bn. I was OIC of the Ammunition Supply Point at FSB Buttons from late November 1969 until late May/early June 1970. Do you remember the Helicopter rearm point taking a couple of direct hits on/about 5 Dec 69? That was directly in front of my ASP._

      1. Robert Conerly
        I was with the 15th S&S Bn. I was there at Buttons from late Nov. 1969 untill Oct.1970 and was in a tent across the road from the rearm point.
        my Email conerly.robert @yahoo.com
        I can send you pictures and see if you can recognize anyone

  8. My late father was LTC E. Bruce Peters. He was an Army Ranger, wounded by mortar fire in the middle of the night at a special forces camp near Song Be.
    I have a couple of photos of him in the field, and training south vietnamese.
    I am curious if any of the soldiers stationed in Song Be in this group knew him?
    Thanks to all of you who served.

  9. I was at Song Ba from Oct 67 through Feb 68. I was the acting platoon Sgt for 4 quad 50’s used for defense on the berm. When the 101st move there I took 2 of the quads out to support them was was sent to Song Ba town for TET 68 where we setup to await the inf. to push the VC out into open ground. Never happened and we were pinned down on a hill top for 3 days before they got us out

    1. I was the Asst. Advisor (MACV Tm 70) to the 3Bn/9thRegt./5th ARVN at Phuoc Qua/Loc from June – November 1967. This was well before LZ Buttons was established. We did a lot of coordination visits with the SF B-34 team in
      Song Be. Through various intell sources we sensed that something was brewing as we got into the Sept-Oct time frame. Sure enough, late night on 10/27/67, a full compliment of the 88th NVA Regt., newly trained/equipped, launched an
      attack on our compound at three points and through the night with three wave attempts. Thanks to a lot of pre-planned mortar/artillery and air support, they never made it over and into our bunkers. The 88th Artillery Bn also was
      shelling Song Be. Some years later while doing intell research for a Masters program, I noted that this attack along with others in the pre-TET 68′ time, were part of Gen. Giap’s “border battles” strategy designed to draw larger American
      forces away from Saigon as a precursor to the TET offensive.

  10. I was with Cav 2nd Brigade HHC out of Buttons. Jan 70 / Feb 71. Spent most of my time working relays and jump CP out of Nui Ba Ra (aka FSB Thomas).

    1. Glad to have run across your posting…hope that all is well with you. I’ve been in contact with Gerald P (still in Calif); have a good photo of two of you from the early days on Nui Ba Ra.

  11. Hay out there. To the initial post about the first cav battery into the song be small strip. 1969.

    Ya I was there from MACV Team 67 compound and was nco ic at the tactical operation center inside the cav compound. I was 19 but had a year in country.

    Was kinda awed by u guys cuz we were not real warriors, but had A very loose command compared to the cav. had to deal with all the commo for support flights and mapping of All night positions to clear B 52 strikes into the province.

    Y’all burned down ur mess tent or it caught fire. Too much grease? Maybe.

    Everything changed when ‘the cav’ arrived. We Used to be welcomed in d town song be. That’s the small air strip location.

    Had no idea how big Buttons was. Way more than we ever had. Never saw it. After my time. Only see pictures of big fork lifts and c 130s.

    1. I was there when the 82nd was sent home .. I was short and they put me in the. Motor pool 70 yes i enlisted in 6 years i was with 6 divison

  12. I was on LZ Song Be, January 1970 to December 1970 , with 2/12 first Cav Div. I remember te every day mortar attack, rápid fire in te Night. Remember the helicópter carry the died soldier and dog . Remember the Red Cross girl visitang the LZ. The heavy rain in the LZ. And dirty clothe in the forest.. WAlking and walking in the bush every day looking for NVA and VC enemy and my squad compose for 3 mexican., 1LT Mexican, 5 more from diferent state and me from Puerto Rico.

  13. I was a generator operator for the 1st signal brigade stationed here throughout 1970. I remember the many mortar attacks on the base and the big guns firing shells every day.

    1. Did you know Sgt. Wes Alcorn Co. B44/36th Signal from Cincinnati. He was my best friend. We were together at Quan Loi before they transfered him to Song Be. I’ve lost track of him.

  14. I was with the 1st Cav in Cambodia and areas around Song Be until I had a medical issue and was pulled out of triple canopy jungle to a hospital. After getting out of the hospital I was stationed at Nui Ba Ra. This was from around September 1970 to March 1971 when we turned the hill top over to the South Vietnamese. I have pictures of some guys that were there at the time as well as several looking down on Song Be and Buttons. I’d be happy to share them if there is any interest.

      1. Sent several to the email address you provided. Will send photo’s of several of the guys stationed there later.

          1. After looking at your site further, I realize you don’t really have a place for pictures. You know of a site where they might want pictures of the area and some of the guys stationed there at the time? Thanks, Don

          2. Don, there are a couple of Facebook groups, one is called Vietnam Veterans Photo Club. That is quite good, a bit rowdy sometimes, but lots of good material and photos like yours are always very much appreciated. For the website, we have been thinking of having a page for veterans’ photos as we have received quite a few over the years. Your photos are really interesting and deserve to be shown.

            There is also Instagram. I know a couple of vets who publish their pictures together with their stories. They are getting a fantastic response. We have an Instagram for this page and would of course help to promote you.

      1. Hi Bill:
        Maybe because of COVID, but I haven’t been to this site for months. If you’re still interested I’d be happy to post them. Not sure I can do that here but let me know and we’ll figure something out.

    1. Bruce I was there too in 1970 . We had generators beside our FDC. HHC 1/77th Arty. Battalion HHC
      were across from our tents. Sound familiar? The mechanics that kept those generators operating worked there but off!

  15. I flew many missions around song be as a 1st cavalry door gunner. From may 69 thru Jan 70. Some crazy times.

    1. My dad was in 1969-70 medic- 3/11 k troop then I troop – line and then headquarters – and howitzer location. Did you know a Don Golden?

  16. During my time I worked out of Phuoc Vinh, Tay Ninh, and finally out of Fire Support Base Buttons in Song Be. Both the Nui Ba Den and Nui Ba Ra mountains watched over us at times like brooding giants while the orange dust of FSB Buttons that turned into the thick orange ooze in the Monsoons left a ring around my bathtub when I finally made it home. Those bases are long gone as is the jungle war we knew that was fierce and violent, but the tranquility and raw beauty of the countryside that is displayed in your recent photos shows a better time and place. Thank you for all that you guys do in showing some of the history (and geography) of the war we knew then.

    1. Thank you for your kind comment Kregg. And thank you for your contributions to the website. Indeed Vietnam is in peace nowadays and it offers so much for the traveler. I think for almost every article on the website, we have had input from one or more veterans to make sure the articles describe history in a correct way. I am very grateful for that.
      Jonas

    2. I was assigned to the Security Platoon @ Buttons in 1969 & 1970. One thing i remember about Buttons was that damn red mud. It. After a heavy rain it was terrible! At least our patrols, etc, in the jungle weren’t nearly as muddy, just extremely wet! When I got home my mother burned all my nasty muddy reddish green fatigues, she thought the red ring ruined the bathtub! hahaha I turned 19 during my assignment there and fortunately only remember the good days…….

  17. Thanks for the interesting article and comments. I was at buttons for 3 months from about Oct to dec of 69 I believe. My artillery unit, C battery 2/12th, had 3 155 towed howitzers, we were there during the ground attack of 4 Nov 69. we fired on the tunnels mentioned earlier, using Willie Peter or rather white phosphorus rounds, which I thought was against the Geneva convention. We set the whole middle part of the mountain on fire. Quite a show but we didn’t see the infrared scopes for a while after that. Around the first of the year we rejoined the rest of our battery at Quan loire which was located across the road from the french plantation house.

    1. Larry, thank you for your comment. And thank you for the insight, it really adds to the information in the article. I know during the Tet offensive in 68 they were fighting very close to the base as well. It is quite amazing how close they were moving around to this large base.

    2. Oh and one more thing, have you seen the article about Quan Loi here on the website? It is also in the III Corps section. That was an interesting visit.

    3. To Larry Alderson,
      I was there at FSB Buttons with you during the ground attack. I have much information and photos in the event you are interested. Contact me at my email address. By the way, I’m Teddy Leyba.
      jetfuelxxx@gmail.com

      1. My Brother, Mike Lucas, was at FSB Buttons during the Battle for Buttons Nov 4, ‘69! By chance do you know of him? I believe he was 2nd of the 7th, 1st Cav!
        Thank You!!

      2. Hello Teddy… yes, I would love to see some of your pictures. I have many on slides, but have not yet converted them to digital format.

    4. I too was at Buttons from Sep 69 to Jan70. I was Asst S3 & Aviation Liasion for the 2nd Bde. I main responsibility was Base Defense Officer in charge. So YES, I remember the ground attack on 4 November….. I was quite busy, LOL.

    5. I was on Buttons for the November 1969 ground attack, also. Do you remember the Huey parked outside the berm, but inside the wire? We’d (C/227AHB/1CAV) been given the mission of dropping flares in the event of an attack. If intel said it was going to happen, when did it? I was just dosing off in my hammock hanging on the tail stinger and antenna when all hell broke loose. That was a night to remember. Constant fire every time we landed for fuel and flares. Glad we made it Larry!

    6. Hey Larry, I was also at Buttons the same time as you and my artillery unit was C battery 2/12th, with (3) 155 towed howitzers. I have a picture of the gun crew I was on, and I think you’re in the background over my left shoulder. I could send it to you if I have your email address. You can contact me at stevefitz1@comcast.net. Hope to hear from you…Steve

  18. Jonas:
    Thank you for your time and for posting this. I was at LZ Buttons from October 1969 to January 1970 with the 557 Engr. Co. 31st Combat Engr. Bn. We built a by-pass road around the camp because the public road ran through the center of it, and at sundown it had to be closed to none-military traffic.
    While I was there, Nui Ba Rah was found to contain an extensive tunnel complex (from one side of the mountain to the other) with a 90-man-capacity hospital.
    Nightly mortar attacks came down on us from the rock formation (no longer visible in your photo, but just above the roof of the building in the bottom center) on the mountain. Other work included repairing the runway, building an outside ammunition storage area, and a outside POL storage area. When we finished, we left to go reopen Hwy 13 for the invasion of Cambodia. Much of what we had built at LZ Buttons was destroyed not long after we left.
    Thanks again,

    1. Joe, thank you for your nice comment.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the bypass road you built is still in use and one of the town roads today. Interesting information about the tunnel complex. I believ I have read about it somewhere but am not sure. I do remember reading that LRRP units were pulling missions by the foot of the mountain as the Tet offensive started, killing several enemies there. It is amazing how they would settle in so close to a major base.

      Did you work at other bases in the area? Chances are they are covered here on the website. I have gotten around to several of them that still has something left to see like Lai Khe, Phuoc Vinh, Loc Ninh and Quan Loi. The Thunder bases are all gone and so is An Loc.

    2. Thank you for this. I was there Jan 68 thru Feb 68. We were a signal platoon sent there from Phu Loi in support of an element of the 101st on a mission that still remains a mystery to me because the leadership didn’t really tell us a damn thing other than get all your stuff together and be ready to load up. If there was an OPORD issued, it was never shared with the lower enlisted. We set up camp up in the woods on the other side of the road. I only knew that we were at Song Be at the “Big Strip.” I have only learned recently from post like this that it was FSB Buttons and that mountain was called Nui Ba Rha. Anyway, thanks again for the post and info.

    3. I was with the 557 engineer co called earth eaters drive a 5 ton dump also loader at the pit off base , bad place on guards small base by pit went empty , William needam died there rocket in tent Jan 69

  19. Thank You for your work. 1st Infrantry 1 st Batillion 5 th arty in Phouc Vhin 1967. In battles of Ceder Falls, Junction City. Moved to Song Be 1967 to set up under the BLACK VIRGIN MOUNTIAN AS IT WAS KNOWN. We were used to fire grid fire for units supporting a communication site on Mountian. Firebase became known as buttons. Moved to Quan Loi . Home of French swimming pool and Golf course.
    Headquarters was set up in reclamaimed garbage dump. My 105 weapon was set on number 9 tee of golf course overlook a valley of Quan Loi. Before building Firebase moved again to the Michelin Rubber Plantation where the NVA and Vietnamese army by passed us to attack towns and villages around us. Finished my tour in the Plantation Feb-March 1968.
    Time has changed the areas. We survived the walk. Welcome Home for those who did.
    REST IN PEACE BROTHERS WHO FELL. For all that was in that counrtry. We all left our souls behind. We still suffer from those times.

    1. Thank you for your comment Frank and thank you for visiting the website. We are lucky to have the places you were at here on the site. I had hopes of finding the remains of the swimming pool at Quan Loi at the day of our visit but it was too wet to venture off the runway. I have a good idea of where it would have been, but at best it would be possible to find some concrete remains of it and perhaps some of the buildings.

      More or less the whole area from driving east from An Loc towards Quan Loi and south from there all the way down to Dong Xoai is covered with rubber plantations now.

      I would like one day to travel around the area, especially north of Buttons and look more in detail for the old LZs that were scattered there. I am sure there would be some interesting finds.

      Again, thank you for visiting our website.

    2. I was on Nui Ba Ra mtn from late Oct 70 until the Cav pulled back in 71. I’m trying to find out exactly when the 1st Cav left the area.

      1. I was at Song Be from Sept. 69 to probably around March or April of 70. Then went to Phouc Vinh until Nov.70 when I went home.. Was with 15thS%S. We ran the fuel dump and Helicopter Pads. What a nasty place. I wouldn’t have missed it for the world. Grew up real fast. Victor M Swanson. victorswanson3@gmail.com. please feel free to use my email. Oh yea, we also loaded agent orange into the helicopters. And yea I got typr2 diabetes and PAD. the he takes care of me. Would appreciate any pictures. I worked the forklift on the hook pad quite often. Vic

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